Torchwood CoE: Reaction

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I was upset, I was angry when he died. I couldn't, there was a whole load of people not using common sense and load to Ianto's death. So I stopped and asked, 'why was Ianto there? In Thames House? Why didn't he just let Jack go and handle it by himself like he normally does? Like common sense would dictate?'
To me this episode (and to a given degree the whole series) has, despite the situation of the children, been all about how you should fear the people you were raised to believe were powerless -- they're not -- not the PAs or the women or the folks living on council estates or the fucking queers.
Now that I started breathing again after that and stopped feeling nauseous (Damn, the humans in this were scarier than the monsters, which is pure New Whoverse)...five thoughts, in the realm of thinking that despite being upset, I saw this as dark, and well-written true science fiction as it probably should be.
I dont' know about y'all, but my Jack's never been a white-knight, never been untarnished, never been perfect, never been above leaving when he's lost too much.
I feel numb. That was an emotionally intense hour that alternately gripped, chilled and horrified. It was not filled with action per say and daring do, just the lengths that some people will go to under desperate circumstances. - читать комментарии тоже.
Unspoilery: a fantastic ending to a fantastic miniseries. Hands down one of the best tv productions I've been privileged to watch.
Jack was Jack. He's not the Doctor, he's a born second in command and happier that way. He doesn't have the record to back up the Vashta Narada manoeuvre, and that cost him Ianto. Jack is a pragmatic bastard and will always take the ends justifies the means.
Отзыв tanarian, довольно негативный, но рациональный.
This was awful, guys. And really great. And I am so glad.
We know that Gwen was created as an audience identification figure, and I think she still has that function throughout CoE. Gwen is the public face of Torchwood, and that is how the general (non-fandom) viewing public see her.
As for TW itself - well, Gwen can run things, Johnson makes a superb stand-in Jack, her gang make good heavies, Lois is super-PA, Dekker is an effective techie (if an annoying little shit), Bridget can be Whitehall liaison, and they have a PM that TW has over a barrel because they still have that recording of her talking about school league tables. They can find a medic or two from somewhere. By the time Jack gets back, refreshed and feeling better about life, the Hub can be rebuilt (we know they've been through the wreckage already) and everything can be up and running and ready for the next adventure.
From its hideous Sex Alien vs Cyberwoman beginnings, Torchwood has become a true treasure. But it's hit upon a terrible theme in Tosh, Owen and Ianto; as people realise their potential in this world, they die. If the same thing does happen to the series it would be awful. But God, it would be poetic.
So, we all know RTD flirts with history once in a while and particularly enjoys toying with various WW2 themes. COE was loaded with it.
Torchwood: Children of Earth goes much further in systematically undermining our expectations about the rules by which the TV-sci-fi world works. The two male leads defy authority to charge at the monsters, all guns blazing... and get themselves and others killed without harming the enemy in the slightest. The despicable Prime Minister is deposed... only to be replaced by the one cabinet member even worse than he is. The hero can't save all the children, and can't find forgiveness or absolution for the terrible things he does in defence of the planet.
It's just really shameful and pathetic on the parts of the fans, who are now trying to say that "we're the ones that should be taken into consideration" whenever a writer of a tv show (or film) decides to do something that will go against what a viewer likes. In my book, that's someone trying to DICTATE how their work should be done. I get that folks are upset, but they didn't create and/or bring to life those characters. They became fans of the show, the characters and the actors, but that was because of what RTD did. He created it.
John Barrowman talks 'Torchwood: Children of Earth'
Ianto dies visibly Queer, marked and in the arms of his lover; to the government, a government that stands looking on while thousands of their citizens do not receive the care they need; to a military that excludes them (that would be the US one that are shown to be as Big Baddies along with the British Government); standing up to an enemy that had received Carte Blanche to eradicate the Powerless; the children, who are our future.
Knowing about Alice now really shifted the way I view Gwen and why Jack never really got romantically involved with her. Yes, sexual tension is there. Clearly there is a sexless love-affair going on there… But Gwen… wow, she is so obviously the daughter that he wanted to see every day. Rhys isn't competition. Jack wants to make sure his little girl found a boy that will treat her right, that their relationship won't fail like Alice and her Ex obviously did.
There's certain situations with Jack and Gwen, where it's always going to be there, it's always going to be will-they-won't-they? I think personally, if they ever did get them together it would kind of spoil it.
It was definitely mentioned in a couple of episodes in the first two seasons. The life expectancy of Torchwood team members isn’t very high at all.
The Ten Best Philosophical Things about it...
At the end of season two it all kind of came out of the conversation about, well, we've set up this mythology about Torchwood, that people die young, that they are at the heart of the threat, that they are in grave, grave danger, that they are the kind of last line of defense. And... you get to the point where you can't sustain that if you don't see the results of that. You don't see the casualities.
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RTD: "The moment I walk into a television studio, they know I'm going to put gay and lesbian characters, because that's what I do. I don't do it on purpose: I do it because that's my life. There's no grandstanding. It's not like I'm getting on a soapbox anymore. I think the key is that I do it with a sense of humour. Often, gay characters are done very seriously, and thus very boring. I'd rather chuck this stuff up in the air and have a laugh with it."
RTD and Julie Gardner (also Steven Moffat) established from the very beginning that Captain Jack is "omni-sexual" and when Torchwood came into being they intentionally presented ALL of the characters as somewhere a bit left of 100% heterosexual. (Even Gwen got that snog with the orgasm alien.) I have a STRONG gut feeling that the next love interest/sexual partner we'll see Jack with will be female.